you're on the board of an organization called just foreign policy, and that organization is offering a reward to anyone who can give it a copy of the negotiating text of the trans-pacific partnership agreement. any takers so far? >> not so far. so the idea here is that we do have people involved in negotiating process, they have access to at least parts of the deal. so the hope is that someone from good conscience, presumably more than, you know, the hope of getting a big reward, will feel, you know, feel the urge to make it public and, you know, the organization just foreign policy -- i'm on the board, but i don't play an active role in running it -- will be happy to then post on the web so that, you know, people across the country can really, you know, in all the countries will have an opportunity to see it. >> so in the last word here, both of you, the argument is this trans-pacific partnership agreement will ensure a freer flow of goods and greater prosperity. the other side of it really serves essentially what we know about it, the corporate interest. is that where you come down